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National Forests?

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National Forests?

From: Melanie (maiden1974@verizon.net) | Date: 2004-07-21 09:31:42 UTC-07:00
I need some help clarifying a point. It has been made abundantly clear that
National Parks are off limits to letterboxing, does that include National
Forests? For instance, I live near a large portion of the Mt. Hood National
Forest. Should I not plant boxes there?

Maiden in Oregon


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Re: [LbNA] National Forests?

From: Silent Doug (silentdoug@letterboxing.info) | Date: 2004-07-21 12:55:29 UTC-04:00
At 12:31 PM 7/21/2004, you wrote:
>I need some help clarifying a point. It has been made abundantly clear that
>National Parks are off limits to letterboxing, does that include National
>Forests? For instance, I live near a large portion of the Mt. Hood National
>Forest. Should I not plant boxes there?

National Forests are managed by the USDA Forest Service under the
Department of Agriculture. National Parks are managed by the Department of
the Interior. While the NPS does not allow geocaching or letterboxing, the
USDA Forest Service does allow geocaching (and letterboxing, I'd assume by
extension), though specific policies can be set by each individual Forest.

Go to:
http://www.fs.fed.us/
and search for geocaching and the forest that you're interested in and you
should turn up pages that describe the policies in place (if any) for a
particular forest. In some cases, they prohibit the activity in certain
areas, for instance. (I notice that the Mt Hood page doesn't have any
geoaching policy listed; I'd assume that no overriding policy governs that
forest and thus that there are no restrictions on geocaching/letterboxing
there.)

You can also contact the Forest Service in a particular forest and ask them
about their geocaching policy without them looking at you strangely or
kicking you out of the place!

Doug


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RE: [LbNA] National Forests?

From: Melanie (maiden1974@verizon.net) | Date: 2004-07-21 11:01:45 UTC-07:00
Thank you so much for the clarification, that definitely eases the search
restrictions on my camping weekend!

I'll keep that link handy.

Maiden
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From: Silent Doug [mailto:silentdoug@letterboxing.info]
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Subject: Re: [LbNA] National Forests?


At 12:31 PM 7/21/2004, you wrote:
>I need some help clarifying a point. It has been made abundantly clear
that
>National Parks are off limits to letterboxing, does that include National
>Forests? For instance, I live near a large portion of the Mt. Hood
National
>Forest. Should I not plant boxes there?

National Forests are managed by the USDA Forest Service under the
Department of Agriculture. National Parks are managed by the Department of
the Interior. While the NPS does not allow geocaching or letterboxing, the
USDA Forest Service does allow geocaching (and letterboxing, I'd assume by
extension), though specific policies can be set by each individual Forest.

Go to:
http://www.fs.fed.us/
and search for geocaching and the forest that you're interested in and you
should turn up pages that describe the policies in place (if any) for a
particular forest. In some cases, they prohibit the activity in certain
areas, for instance. (I notice that the Mt Hood page doesn't have any
geoaching policy listed; I'd assume that no overriding policy governs that
forest and thus that there are no restrictions on geocaching/letterboxing
there.)

You can also contact the Forest Service in a particular forest and ask
them
about their geocaching policy without them looking at you strangely or
kicking you out of the place!

Doug


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silentdoug@letterboxing.info
http://www.letterboxing.info


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Re: [LbNA] National Forests?

From: Steve and Heidi (stephenholyfield@sbcglobal.net) | Date: 2004-07-22 23:22:17 UTC
There's a couple schools of thought regarding these areas of planting:

1) Better to beg forgiveness than ask permission.

2) It is only prohibited if they know about it (or can find it to
prohibit it.)

3) Ask and see what happens.

We're not saying to run out and plant boxes in national anythings,
however it HAS been done in the past. Discretion, care, and [well]
downright secrecy are the keys to it. This applies to all groups
deemed "sensitive to letterboxing" and I know there's a few of them
in southern new england that fit in that category. IMO if you cannot
google a clue and find "XYZ National Park" in the clues, I would
guess it is a safer bet that being blatant about it.

I doubt given the staffing levels in government [generally] that
there's someone in each national park / forest who routinely patrols
the internet for clues to that park.

-Steve, Heidi and Madras